For Sale, Wanted or to Hire Wanted PIGS TO CANADA?

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  • #3366 Reply
    Anonymous

    Hi
    We are in Canada’s smallest province, Prince Edward Island.
    We kept GOS when we lived in Ireland, and would love to have them again.
    Anybody here set up for export?

    I think F&M is a problem permit wise, at present, but we’d like to takl tok anybody who may be able to help us.

    #6826 Reply
    stephen booth
    Participant

    Suggest you contact either Dave Overton ,or Andrew Robinson (details on members page) who attend the British Pig Assn Pedigree meetings as representatives of the breed.Other than that ,you could contact the BPA direct. It would probably come back to the two gentlemen mentioned to source numbers /bloodlines you require in conjunction with the BPA arranging “red tape” side of export

    #6847 Reply
    Anonymous

    I’ve spoken to
    Chris Jackson,Export Promoter,BPA and he is keen to help us with this, once the ban is lifted.
    Anybody out there who wants to help with re-introducing these gorgeous pigs to Canada, where they are now extinct?

    Please post
    [:(]

    #6849 Reply
    GOS
    Participant

    I was involved in the 1990s on behalf of the Club in sourcing and co-ordinating the supply of 25 unrelated GOS pigs to the US to help reintroduce them there. It is a long and involved process but ultimately very rewarding. Based on that experience, it is as expensive to send out a batch as it is one pig so if you can pull together a group of people with a similar interest perhaps via the Canadian Rare Breeds organisation, it would make more sense. Even if the group perhaps included examples of some other British rare pig breeds. Even so I do warn you it will be eye-wateringly expensive especially in terms of the vets’ bills either side of the Atlantic.

    #6876 Reply
    Anonymous

    Yes, we’re finding that out, but as yet we are still undaunted! USa isn’t an option for import for GOS.

    It seems 10 is a much better number than 4 or 5.
    Were you successful back in the 90’s ?

    As soon as the FMD is lifted (slated to be SOON) we shall be actively looking.

    We need at least 10, as unrelated as much as poss, as we want to recoup some costs by selling breeding pairs.

    Still looking, if anyone out there wants to take this on!

    #6877 Reply
    GOS
    Participant

    Yes, it went through OK mainly due to the determination of Robyn Metcalfe who organised the US end of things. I’m sure once the FMD restrictions are lifted we can do a similar job in finding 10 unrelated pigs for you of high quality. However, before they go into isolation and the vets’ bills start to rack up, the breeders would require a deposit to demonstrate good faith but that is the sort of detail we can tackle when things get moving.

    #6878 Reply
    Anonymous

    Hello Heritage Farmer, and all old chums in the Club in UK. Richard Lutwyche has alerted me to this post.

    I am based in Montral and will be pleased to assist if I can. I have spent 48 years shipping pigs all over the world from UK, including to Canada. Having been away from UK for a bit, and appalled by the dreadful disease news from home, I cannot vouch for the exact current situation, but shipments of pigs to Canada will involve the followng requirements:
    1. Normally, the source country must have been free of FMD for 2 years from the last outbreak before shipment can be made. This can be varied by the importing country, but I expect that Canada will follow these OIE rules.
    2. Canada is peculiar in that pigs for export must be born and reared in bird proof buildings, right up to export date. Not easy for most GOS breeders who do all this outdoors.
    3. You can send one pig if you wish, but the most economic loading is 40 heads at 40 kgs on a two deck airline belly pallet in a wide bodied aircraft. If any one pig exceeds 70 kgs the shoulder height is such that you can only single deck.
    4. Select piglets 4 weeks before shipment and allow 3 weeks for all blood sampling etc to be completed.
    5. Keep the number of sources to a minimum. Every extra farm involves another vet practice, transport, and separation in the pallett. Obviously you need genetic variation which may be difficult to find on a small number of sources, and all must meet the rearing conditions above.
    6. Do not ship pregnant animals. This first litter is usually a failure because the dam will not have been in her new environment throughout pregnancy to impart immunities to her litter.
    7. You must provide ad lib water during transit. I can tell you how to design and build the necessary pallets and water system.

    This is enough to be going on with. As you can see, it ain’t trivial. You can contact me at aatasec@telus.net or weekday tel in Canada: 514-631-1755. The best source of assistance, current protocols, DEFRA contacts etc., in UK will be the Britsih Livestock Genetics Consortium. Marcus Bates of BPA is a member. See http://www.britishlivestockgenetics.com

    Keep up the good work!
    Tim Harris
    aatasec@telus.net

    #6905 Reply
    GOS
    Participant

    Tim Harris has just sent this news in to us:

    Customer Information Notes – AE/08/32

    Export of breeding pigs to Canada

    1. Revised export certification is now available for the export of Breeding pigs to Canada (1169EHC)

    2. Exporters need to be aware that as a result of Canada’s lifting of restrictions of animals and animal products from the UK the certificate has been released for general use. We have also made a minor change to the certificate at part IV in respect of disease clearance.

    3. Should exporters require a specimen copy of the export health certificate and the notes for guidance or other associated documents, they should contact their local Animal Health Office:
    http://www.defra.gov.uk/corporate/contacts/ahdo.htm

    Further Enquiries
    3. This and further CINs will be posted on the Defra website at the following address:
    http://www.defra.gov.uk/animalh/int-trde/cins/index.htm

    4. Exporters with any further enquiries concerning the subject matter of this CIN should contact their local Animal Health Office

    Issued by: INTERNATIONAL ANIMAL HEALTH SERVICE DELIVERY UNIT
    Export Section
    Tel (01522) 563132
    email Lincoln.iahsdu@animalhealth.gsi.gov.uk

    Page published: 15 February, 2008

    Tim Harris SDA

    18, Bord du Lac, Suite 502,

    Pointe-Claire QC CANADA H9S 5X9

    +1 514 694 9059 tel

    +1 514 694 1545 fax

    aatasec@telus.net

    http://www.tim-harris.co.uk

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